Talk:Zoe Kinsky/@comment-98.22.136.4-20180113104043/@comment-2602:30A:2C9E:62A0:E9FE:9DFA:7C5C:A746-20180117172544

That's definitely the first time something resembling the phrase was mentioned, and Justin suggested maybe that's what it should be, but Griffin hadn't settled on it until Justin brought it up again in episode 253.

I guess it could be seen either way, but I definitely see 253 as the beginning of the climb.